tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post2548900174410549637..comments2023-05-09T02:53:56.663-07:00Comments on Chewing with the Paper Chipmunk: Experiments with Paste Painting on Tyvek, Wet Media Dura-lar and YupoPaper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-31889647463125177942011-04-02T00:23:50.038-07:002011-04-02T00:23:50.038-07:00Looks like you made some interesting experiments h...Looks like you made some interesting experiments here. I am looking forward to seeing the painted acetate again.<br>And once again you make me envious that you Americans all seem to have easy access to tyvek. I don't think I ever saw it, and wouldn't know where and how to get it. It seems like such a useful material. I'll have to check again whether I don't have another USPS mailing envelope here that seems to be made out of tyvek. Or is it just filled with tyvek? - I really don't know which part of such an envelope I would use. Do you strip it somehow?<br><br>And what is Yupo?<br><br>I had a look at Lil's tutorial. It is nice and clear. Thank you for pointing us to it. Thanks for the link to my tutorial, too, of course.Büchertigerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01720870005097703428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-88273180241586103922011-04-02T00:23:49.770-07:002011-04-02T00:23:49.770-07:00PS If you get a Tyvek envelope, the whole thing is...PS If you get a Tyvek envelope, the whole thing is made of Tyvek. It's not generally a lining inside. Think of it as very strong paper that you can't tear.Paper Chipmunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-62254721632927445422011-04-02T00:23:49.269-07:002011-04-02T00:23:49.269-07:00Love-love-LOVE your paste painted papers or should...Love-love-LOVE your paste painted papers or should I say materials???<br>As soon as I am back home I will try the Dura-lar; I can't get over the clean clear look and the complete absence of a grainy film you have achieved.<br>Truly beautiful!!!Anna Mavromatishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00713679775153120642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-90780763762417990492011-04-02T00:23:49.003-07:002011-04-02T00:23:49.003-07:00I love the MS brain thing. My nearest and dearest...I love the MS brain thing. My nearest and dearest have become much more adept at mime. A gift I have given them when the words hide from me/escape me. Too damn often unfortunately. Cushion for some reason is a word I often have trouble saying. Also scissors. Weird.<br><br>I have to ask: what do you use instead of whinge? And use the phrase as much as you like. <br><br>I have been blessed with a black sense of humour which helps heaps.The Elephant's Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06650565833097914052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-74546379582213795292011-04-02T00:23:48.822-07:002011-04-02T00:23:48.822-07:00Thanks. And you are such an ingenious and entertai...Thanks. And you are such an ingenious and entertaining researcher. The mind boggles... !Paper Chipmunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-8448657865934192862011-03-02T12:57:08.739-08:002011-03-02T12:57:08.739-08:00Thanks. And you are such an ingenious and entertai...Thanks. And you are such an ingenious and entertaining researcher. The mind boggles... !Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-10649701003813929572011-03-02T03:36:14.465-08:002011-03-02T03:36:14.465-08:00You are so creativeYou are so creativeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-89698399784888890862011-02-25T23:32:06.480-08:002011-02-25T23:32:06.480-08:00Thanks. If I teach the class or not, it's ok. ...Thanks. If I teach the class or not, it's ok. If not, it's probably just one less stressor. But I think it will be ok.<br /><br />And I do understand what you're saying... It's complicated.Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-89735508326778735502011-02-25T17:27:36.796-08:002011-02-25T17:27:36.796-08:00I should have said in my earlier comment that if t...I should have said in my earlier comment that if the craft centre passes up the opportunity to have you take a class they have rocks in their heads. Fingers and toes crossed.<br /><br />And yes I would be a) lying and b) superficial if I didn't admit that there are ups and downs. But we all have them. MS or not. MS is a part of me - I refuse to let it define me (very often). I was working in the field of disability policy when I was diagnosed. And found it very hard when I finally admitted that I could no longer work productively.Elephant's Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650565833097914052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-22920694579453123532011-02-25T16:18:53.520-08:002011-02-25T16:18:53.520-08:00The cognitive stuff can be distressing. I have ups...The cognitive stuff can be distressing. I have ups and downs with it--sometimes I can laugh about it, but other times... context, I guess. When I'm with friends, it's easier to deal with. And, yes, a black sense of humor comes in very handy! I actually had planned to be an academic linguist, way back when (gave it up before the health problems really took off, so that wasn't the issue). But words and sentence structure and the like had always been important to me. <br /><br />I think instead of whinge, we'd say whine. Or, most informally, bitch. My Yiddish-leaning friends would say kvetch. Complain. But I don't think they really *quite* equal whinge. And whinge is just such a nice word. One I hope not to forget...heh...Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-17915766193717963442011-02-25T15:38:16.290-08:002011-02-25T15:38:16.290-08:00I love the MS brain thing. My nearest and dearest...I love the MS brain thing. My nearest and dearest have become much more adept at mime. A gift I have given them when the words hide from me/escape me. Too damn often unfortunately. Cushion for some reason is a word I often have trouble saying. Also scissors. Weird.<br /><br />I have to ask: what do you use instead of whinge? And use the phrase as much as you like. <br /><br />I have been blessed with a black sense of humour which helps heaps.Elephant's Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650565833097914052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-54122941098789693132011-02-25T02:22:53.927-08:002011-02-25T02:22:53.927-08:00Thanks so much. Really kind of you. I think I woul...Thanks so much. Really kind of you. I think I would like to hang up a sign in the house with 'give us this day our daily whinge', if you don't mind me stealing that from you! So true. Americans don't actually say whinge, but I do feel it conveys the act and sentiment so much better than our nearest equivalents. Likewise, feel free to commiserate. <br /><br />You'll appreciate this one, I think...Yesterday I was asked to teach a class for a new craft center that opened nearby. I was thrilled. I don't get to do a lot of that sort of thing. And then I promptly had a bad case of Fun With MS Brain while talking to the proprietor. I could not find my words. Really could not. Sentence salad with holes. Ugh. I don't know if they've changed their mind on the offer or not. <br /><br />Alas, at least it's not hot here. I feel for you.Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-32631735076915564432011-02-25T00:23:06.013-08:002011-02-25T00:23:06.013-08:00Oh wow. I thought I would return the compliment a...Oh wow. I thought I would return the compliment and drop in on your blog and am awed and amazed by the beauty of your creations. Thank you lots. Re MS and whinging: I have adopted the phrase 'give us this day our daily whinge' for my very own. Please drop in on me if the dread disease gets you down.Elephant's Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650565833097914052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-91411892815978715712011-02-23T13:23:47.885-08:002011-02-23T13:23:47.885-08:00Thank you Anna! I am liking the Dura-lar very much...Thank you Anna! I am liking the Dura-lar very much. I discovered that you can cut it, fold it and punch holes in it. I made a little accordion structure with it for a model (I'll put up pics soonish). The paste paint did not flake off on the folds, at least on the miniature model I made. On the down side, it doesn't fold too flat--it tends to spring open more than papers or other things. But there are definitely possibilities here. <br /><br />I hope I'm not leading people astray--that it won't turn out that the paint will come off and the Dura-lar will turn out to be a disaster. But so far, it seems to be working very well. I can't even flick any of the paste paint off if I want to.<br /><br />I'd love to see what you come up with, if you decide to try it! Keep in mind (worth mentioning, just in case), that there are different Dura-lar formulations. Some are for wet media (what you want), others not.Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-87295860145747346322011-02-23T10:07:34.885-08:002011-02-23T10:07:34.885-08:00Love-love-LOVE your paste painted papers or should...Love-love-LOVE your paste painted papers or should I say materials???<br />As soon as I am back home I will try the Dura-lar; I can't get over the clean clear look and the complete absence of a grainy film you have achieved.<br />Truly beautiful!!!Anna Mavromatishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00713679775153120642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-34798546807217810262011-02-23T04:39:38.980-08:002011-02-23T04:39:38.980-08:00So glad you went and looked. Isn't her work ju...So glad you went and looked. Isn't her work just wonderful? Her mother, by the way, is Joan Irvine who has written several very good how-to pop-up books for children. Paper seems to run in the family.<br /><br />And for anyone else who missed that link for Elly: <br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellymackay/. <br /><br />She also has a website with a link to her blog: <br />http://ellymackay.com/default.aspx<br /><br />Her pictures are sweet and dreamy and luminescent.Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-87963944266339045272011-02-23T04:05:25.693-08:002011-02-23T04:05:25.693-08:00Just checked up on Elly McKay - her creations are ...Just checked up on Elly McKay - her creations are really amazing!Büchertigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720870005097703428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-81494753071911007002011-02-22T03:03:03.869-08:002011-02-22T03:03:03.869-08:00I hope it helps! Let me know. I'm curious.I hope it helps! Let me know. I'm curious.Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-81844213665300441472011-02-22T01:14:29.546-08:002011-02-22T01:14:29.546-08:00Thank you for your detailed answer. I believe tyve...Thank you for your detailed answer. I believe tyvek is still called tyvek here, and according to wikipedia it is used to make security/protective clothing for medical personal in the ER, for all who have to do with fine dust, and for officers in securing evidence at a crime scene. - But I have not yet seen it anywhere in a paper store, or heard of people using it. <br />So thank you for the links, I'll have a look. Actually, a staples is located close to where I live, I can walk there in about 30 minutes. - I just never felt the urge to enter, so maybe the answer is closer than I thought it was. Thank again!Büchertigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720870005097703428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-81711070742646230442011-02-22T00:36:38.545-08:002011-02-22T00:36:38.545-08:00PS If you get a Tyvek envelope, the whole thing is...PS If you get a Tyvek envelope, the whole thing is made of Tyvek. It's not generally a lining inside. Think of it as very strong paper that you can't tear.Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-6513384033402917202011-02-22T00:30:49.374-08:002011-02-22T00:30:49.374-08:00Hi there. I keep wondering if perhaps Tyvek is cal...Hi there. I keep wondering if perhaps Tyvek is called something else where you are (?). From what I can tell, it is available there. The German branch of the Staples office supply chain does carry Tyvek envelopes, which can easily be cut down for use. Try http://www.staples.de/ and search on Tyvek. It looked like Amazon.de has some too: <br /><br />http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=tyvek&x=0&y=0<br /><br />Yupo-- http://superyupo.com/ --is a synthetic plastic sheet, basically, that is formulated so that it will hold paint. The stuff I used was opaque, but I do believe it comes in more transparent types as well. I've never really come up with anything I've done with it that thrills me, but the idea seems interesting.<br /><br />Incidentally, one person who does gorgeous things with Yupo is Elly McKay. She paints on it, then builds dioramas with the paintings and photographs them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellymackay/<br /><br />Sorry that there isn't a good way to format links here in the comments--or at least that I've figured out!Paper Chipmunk (aka Ellen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15014954266777016841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5562870398071023329.post-62386970285061084822011-02-21T23:07:04.164-08:002011-02-21T23:07:04.164-08:00Looks like you made some interesting experiments h...Looks like you made some interesting experiments here. I am looking forward to seeing the painted acetate again.<br />And once again you make me envious that you Americans all seem to have easy access to tyvek. I don't think I ever saw it, and wouldn't know where and how to get it. It seems like such a useful material. I'll have to check again whether I don't have another USPS mailing envelope here that seems to be made out of tyvek. Or is it just filled with tyvek? - I really don't know which part of such an envelope I would use. Do you strip it somehow?<br /><br />And what is Yupo?<br /><br />I had a look at Lil's tutorial. It is nice and clear. Thank you for pointing us to it. Thanks for the link to my tutorial, too, of course.Büchertigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720870005097703428noreply@blogger.com